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judith deal replied on Jan 15, 2009I swear one day I’ll get this right. lol. www.myspace.com/savetheplanetxoxo
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rigel best replied on Jan 15, 2009
Judith, you are right. I like to eat eggs and thats why i bought a couple of chickens. I treat them like pets and they wont be slaughtered when they stop laying. Dairy foods are hard to deal with. I know i must give up cheese and milk unless i get my own cow! Incidentally, soy milk is delicious; i use it much more than cow’s milk. Olive oil is my substitute for butter and is much healthier.
We need a huge cultural shift!!!!
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Anonymous replied on Jan 20, 2009reply to rigel
this will be the perfect solution, you have your own chickens, keep them in a nice shed, collect the eggs..but who can do that. especially in a city…how many people don’t have a backyard…
but even a backyard, a huge one, to be sure, is not much without the right info…you may just put a huge barbecue in there…is always coming back to that, people should know more ab out kfc, the media should talk about this and other issues…people just don’t relize all what is involved in it..
from the chicken’s treatment, to the
ethics of it, everything, really..
just don’t buy, for a start…and tell
people you talk to…anna
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judith deal replied on Jan 20, 2009
Although I appreciate the sentiment of not contributing to the mistreatment of animals by raising your own, I wouldn’t eat animal products anyway. The abuse of farmed animals is only one reason I am vegan and frankly, it’s not even the first or the most important reason. It’s bad for your health and I just have issues with putting a dead animal (or any of it’s byproducts) in my mouth. Think about what eggs are. They’re the placenta and amniotic sac of a chicken fetus. That’s still meat if you ask me. Actually, eggs are in the meat group of the food pyramid. And diary? It’s not natural. We are the only species that drinks milk after weaning and the milk of another species. Don’t get me wrong, if you must have eggs and you have the ability to keep your own hens who will be treated humanely, this is better than buying from the store. But make no mistake, eggs are not supposed to be in your body. I don’t understand why people keep trying to find ways to eat animal products when doctors are struggling to get us to stop eating meat and eggs because they’re killing us. When people get high cholesterol, heart disease or suffer from obesity, meat and eggs are the first things they have to give up because that’s what caused it in the first place. So even though there is harm reduction by raising your own hens (for the animals), for you it’s the equivalent of finding a cigarette that doesn’t deplete the ozone layer. Yeah, you save the ozone but what about your lungs?
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anna hook replied on Jan 21, 2009
reply to judith
I think that you are absolutly right, the mistreatment of animals is the main reason why people should not eat meat at all…if chickens were treated in a human way, may be that it was acceptable, to have some chicken dinner once in a while, still, not that sure, even then…you may be right, always very wrong no matter what..as it is, because of the
unsupervised, and accepted cruelty to animals, is really no hard choice not to eat meat..look at the extreme invasion of meat products in the supermarkets…ls incredible
the amount of tons of ground beef, huge bags of chicken legs, etc..etc..In Toronto, where i moved from, you’ll see enormous amount of chicken sold in the store, they super cheap, $4, $5.00, and people buy…they can save money for a bigger tv screen,
new jeans next door to wall mart, etc etc.. etc
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judith deal replied on Jan 22, 2009
Actually I said the mistreatment of animals in NOT the main reason I’m vegan but, ok. I would never eat a chicken no matter how humanely it was raised. My point was that if you refuse to give up eating chicken and you have the ability to raise your own, that is definitely better than buying it from the people who are abusing them. I believe in harm reduction. Anything you can do is better than nothing. I refuse to contribute in any way to the abuse of animals, the destruction of our environment, the continuing starvation of the hungry, or the deterioration of my health. But not everyone is ready to make that lifestyle change so I say make the changes you can. Everything helps. I don’t judge anyone.
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