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OBJECTIVE
General Motors should change its name to Green Motors and pledge to convert all of its gas guzzling cars and trucks to electric or hybrid engines
MEMBER PLEDGE
agree to purchase one of their cars or trucks that has been retrofitted to save the environment

But we will only do it if the objective is met

so we can let you know when you're successful!

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THE PITCH

Someone has to lead. Someone has to take bold action. General Motors is falling apart, losing billions, and in jeopardy of going out of business. If we can convince them that there is a viable market for them taking drastic action to convert their cars and trucks to being the most environmentally efficient in the world, they have nothing to lose by unconditionally embracing the green movement

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Re: Natural Gas vs. Electric?

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Bruce Sarte Jul 25, 2008

I have to agree with Frank. Electric vehicles seem to be adequate for day-to-day residential driving and NG seems to be the way to go for heavier class vehicles.

I think that we will end up with multiple sources of fuel in the future for vehicles no matter...Read More


Re: Natural Gas vs. Electric?

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Frank Huttinger Jul 25, 2008

Light vehicles are more suited to electric or hybrid power solutions. Heavy vehicles (trucks) are better powered by LNG & GTL. LNG for short haul and GTL for long haul.

See:

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2005/05/67534

www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/pdfs/epa_lng.pdf

http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/transportation/afvs/lng.html

www.cleanenergyfuels.com/pdf/TIAX-CNG-Diesel.pdf


Natural Gas vs. Electric?

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Andrew Mason Jul 23, 2008

Al Gore and T Boone Pickens have two different ideas on how to fuel automobiles – Gore wants electric, and Pickens wants natural gas. Which is the better option?


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Andrew Graham Jul 23, 2008

I posted a link to the campaign on Digg, help spread the word.

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Re: Idealistic vs Reality

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Bruce Sarte Jul 23, 2008

Frank -I agree. I am a GM stock holder, have been for a while. Every vehicle I have ever purchased has been a GM vehicle, my father is a big Chevy guy. I have owned Oldsmobiles, Buicks, Chevy’s and my first car was a 1982 Pontiac Trans...Read More


Re: Idealistic vs Reality

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Frank Huttinger Jul 23, 2008

If you want to get involved, buy some GM stock, and get active. Then tell management to pay attention to their European associates. Don’t sell Saab! Make Saab GREEN! Look at Saturn. It can be the GREEN GM brand in the USA. Look at E-85. It’a...Read More


Re: Idealistic vs Reality

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Bruce Sarte Jul 23, 2008

My opinion is that we need to write to our congressperson and tell them we want this technology in our hands, not just at the car shows. The only way any of this technology gets in our hands is through government subsidies. Congress will most likely have to...Read More


Re: Idealistic vs Reality

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Andrew Mason Jul 22, 2008

Good point Bruce… it doesn’t seem completely pragmatic.

What do you think is a more realistic alternative? How can we show car makers that we’ll support them as they make these changes, which could be expensive in the short term?


Re: Idealistic vs Reality

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Andrew Graham Jul 22, 2008

I think the ultimate goal wouldn’t be a name change or even to get completely away from gas but to see a concerted effort to go green is all we are asking. If the numbers of this campaign grow then hopefully GM will take notice.


Idealistic vs Reality

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Bruce Sarte Jul 22, 2008

I love the idea behind this campaign, I’m not so sure about the name change but people need to show the auto industry that we are ready and willing to buy greener vehicles.

No car maker is going to fully go away from gasoline anytime in our lifetime,...Read More