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The only reason they will not legalize weed is that they make too much money off it when it is illegal. I am in the process of creating a budget plan for the legalization of marijuana. I need all of the facts you guys can provide. If anyone knows anything about the money spent enforcing the ban on pot, The jobs created (cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, ETC…) Please post them on this page. I need all the help I can get. I am trying to show the government how to get rich off of the legalization of marijuana. That’s the only thing people in this country(especially the politicians) understand. MONEY. So please everyone with any real insight POST. Also please only post FACTS. Things you KNOW are true. This is a serious project for me. I am doing a lot of hard work and trying to create a realistic plan. So, don’t post something you have just heard post something you have proof of. Thank you all for your participation and help.

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Katherine Katulski started this discussion on Dec 29, 2008

LEAP is a group of Criminal Justice professionals speaking out against the War on Drugs because they believe that to save lives and lower the rates of disease, crime and addiction, as well as conserve tax dollars, we must end drug prohibition. They believe that regulation and control is far more ethical and effective than prohibition.

Their mission is to prevent the multitude of unintended harmful consequences resulting from fighting the War on Drugs and to reduce the incidence of death, disease, crime and addiction by ultimately ending drug prohibition.

Their goals are two-fold: (1) educate the public, the media and policymakers about the failure of current drug policy by presenting a true and accurate picture of the history, causes and effects of drug abuse and the crimes related to drug prohibition. (2) Restore the public’s respect for law enforcement – which has been compromised and greatly diminished by its involvement in imposing drug prohibition.

Among LEAP’s strategies when speakers present before assemblies is a description of the financial and human costs associated with current drug policy. The lectures include empirical data and statistics associated with prohibition assembled by ‘Drug Warriors’ – law enforcers who deal daily with the consequences of the War on Drugs failing and often fatal policies and who oppose prohibition.

Anyone who truly means to see reform should contact LEAP, become a member and take measures to become educated and informed about this issue. .
. 781-393-6985.

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Ron James started this discussion on Nov 7, 2008

The only reason they will not legalize weed is that they make too much money off it when it is illegal. I am in the process of creating a budget plan for the legalization of marijuana. I need all of the facts you guys can provide. If anyone knows anything about the money spent enforcing the ban on pot, The jobs created (cops, lawyers, judges, probation officers, ETC…) Please post them on this page. I need all the help I can get. I am trying to show the government how to get rich off of the legalization of marijuana. That’s the only thing people in this country(especially the politicians) understand. MONEY. So please everyone with any real insight POST. Also please only post FACTS. Things you KNOW are true. This is a serious project for me. I am doing a lot of hard work and trying to create a realistic plan. So, don’t post something you have just heard post something you have proof of. Thank you all for your participation and help.

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    Mark O’Keeffe replied 2 days ago If pot were legal, here’s how much money would be injected into the economy:
    In 2000, there were 734,000 pot arrests. This amounts to about 10% of the “open” marijuana smoking population in the USA, probably less.

    By “open”, I mean those folks who are open about smoking pot, not “closet pot smokers” who keep it a secret from everyone else but their dealer because they fear losing their jobs.
    So, if there are 10 million pot smokers in the USA and the average pot smoker smokes 2 grams (2 joints) per day at a cost of about $7.00 per gram, this is what would happen:
    $14.00 per day X 365 days = $5,110.00 per year per person.
    That’s about $511 MILLION a year.
    Now you need coffeeshops to sell the weed, so you have to build them.
    Amsterdam, for example has 200-300 coffeeshops.
    It takes 4-8 people to build one house, or, in this case one coffeeshop. That’s 800-2,400 jobs created in one city.
    Then you need staff to run those shops. That takes 4 people per shop. That’s another 800-1,200 jobs created in one city.
    If only 2 cities in each of our 50 states had these coffeeshops, there would be 3,200 – 7,200 jobs created in each state. That means 160,000 – 360,000 jobs would be created nationwide.
    AND WE HAVEN’T EVEN GROWN THE WEED YET!!!

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    please folks spread the word. I need all the help I can get. You know our government only cares about money. I am trying to make an actual budget plan and statement that I will send to the us government in order to try to get weed legalized.

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    I believe you are looking at this from a wrong angle. Its better to sell the weed online and have the US postal service deliver it, the sharp rise in postage over the last few years has been mainly due to a lack of use. Secondly a large number of businesses have recently closed down large warehouses which now are nothing more than plain empty buildings, with the technology in hydroponics the US as a country now possesses it would be feasible to grow and sell large amounts of marijuana at very little cost using these methods. Here is an example of what we can do using lettuce, the important thing to catch in the video is that it takes less time, less space and less energy to grow like this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHBhyqowSEc

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    taken from http://money.cnn.com/2005/06/07/commentary/wast…

    High Court’s pot mistake

    Lost in Supreme shuffle: $14 billion in benefits we’re missing by not legalizing and taxing pot.
    June 7, 2005: 1:14 PM EDT

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    NEW YORK (CNN/Money) – Pot should be legal. We could use the money. But that’s getting ignored in the wake of this week’s Supreme Court decision.

    That decision, if you missed it, essentially said that federal law trumps state law and since the Feds say no pot, then no pot. It’s a frightening decision on a constitutional level. I’ve never been a fan of the idea that people in places like California and Mississippi should have a say in how I choose to pursue happiness in New Jersey. And if my state says I can smoke a doobie - okay, smoke one if a doctor says I need to smoke one - what gives people in an entirely different state, through our federal system, the right to say I can’t? Thomas Jefferson would tell me to fire up.

    But the Supreme Court said no, based on the interstate commerce clause. You see, the feds can regulate a local activity, like growing pot in your backyard, if it can conceivably affect an interstate market, like the $10.5 billion market for marijuana. Hey, the argument is as honest as the pothead contingent arguing that this case was only about using marijuana to ease the pain and suffering of disease-stricken people. Once doctors can write prescriptions for pot, the market is de facto legalized.

    “The medical argument was kind of a Trojan Horse,” says Jeffrey Miron, an economics professor at Harvard University. “It would have been nice to keep the argument a straightforward discussion about marijuana use.”

    And that, conservatively, is about a $14 billion discussion, the professor argues in a study released this month.

    According to his calculations, the government would save $7.7 billion a year if it didn’t have to spend money policing and prosecuting marijuana activity. Then, if the feds taxed marijuana at a rate comparable to cigarettes and booze, another $6.2 billion would come rolling in.

    Lots of that money - both the cost savings and the tax money - would go to the states … states that right now are facing budget crunches because of a slowdown in federal funds. And of course the remainder would go to the federal government, which has deficits of its own. Hence the cutback in state funds.

    How much pot money would each state get? Click here.

    The professor’s analysis is pretty conservative. And Milton Friedman and 499 other economists cited it in an open letter calling for legalization. And the study doesn’t even take into account ancillary economic effects, like jobs created or the growth of related industries (you know, bong makers).

    “Unfortunately the economic arguments seem to be turning less relevant right now,” said Miron. “… There are those who argue that marijuana should be given treatment comparable to tobacco and alcohol. That they should have the same weight. But people generally still see these substances in different camps.”

    Obviously there are still important arguments beyond money. One is that pot leads to stronger drugs — a debate that can easily be transferred to liquor sales. The second is health. You can’t tell me pot smoke is any better than tobacco smoke … and I still get irate about some of my hefty health-care premiums going to pay for somebody who couldn’t muster the willpower to quit smoking.

    Still, money talks. Or tokes.

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