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MEREDITH RUSSELL Oct 24, 2008
Posted by MEREDITH RUSSELL

  • Hello everyone and a big HELLO for all the New members….we appreciate your joining us in this boycott against ebaY.

    As most of you know, there have been numerous changes on ebaY since the beginning of January 28th. Most of these changes have had adverse effects on most sellers. I made a conscious decision at that time that I would no longer buy or sell on ebaY.

    The problem for many sellers and buyers was finding alternate selling and buying venues where there was a good variety of goods offered, fair fees and SEO available.

    Recently I have decided to start selling again and am in the process of getting pictures taken and getting all my ducks in a row.

    The three sites that I have found that I think will do the most for my business of selling vintage collectibles are:

    1) Bonanzle.com

    2) Atomic Mall.com

    3) CHS shops.com

    I have not found any auction sites that I want to be a part of as of yet.

    The 3 sites listed above are for fixed price items and the fee structures are more than fair.

    There are NO fee sites such as blujay.com, eCrater.com and others that charge absolutely nothing to list and sell on with no final value fee. These free sites work well for many but I have found CraigsList to work for free in my local area better than the above listed free sites.

    Maybe I am old school (and getting older every day…lol) but I would rather choose a site that does charge some kind of fees so that site has some money to spend on SEO and advertising.

    At Bonanzle.com, there is no listing fee and you only pay a final value fee when your item sells. You can also haggle the price with a prospective buyer via email or instant messaging in real time.

    At AtomicMall.com, no listing fees and a final value fee.

    At cshshops.com, you pay $5.00 monthly and there is NO final value fee. The owner of the site is more than decent and will help you or will even make you a custom banner for your store….for free.

    For others who sell handmade items, there is Etsy.com, which has experienced a huge growth since ebaY decided to implement all the changes on their site. You do pay a small listing fee and your ad stays up for four months. There is also a fair final value fee. Etsy puts out advertising and they have a good buyer base. They also have a vintage section where collectibles can be found.

    With the economy in the dumpster at the present time and the high cost of living with the price of fuel, utilities and food, watching where you spend your money for selling items online needs to be a place where it will work for you.

    Good luck to all of you who are still working from home and trying to sell quality items online. It has definitely been a rough year for many of us but remember…the economy is such that many people will be looking for what you have and with the high price of gas and with affordable shipping options, I expect many will be buying online.

    If you need or want your ebaY feedback numbers for when you go to a new site to sell, go to http://www.repatoo.com and make a copy of your feedback. At least you can steer new customers to look at your feedback so they know you are NOT just a new kid on the block when it comes to online selling.

    Take care and if you have found a place that is working for your selling online, post it here so that many can have the information to make an informed decision to where they might like to sell.

    Later on…….Meredith

  • Anonymous

    i have been using ebid.net

    here is the link http://us.four.ebid.net/perl/normal.cgi?ref=jrs…

    so far its alot better than ebay
    something needs to be done about ebay and soon

  • Anonymous

    I, too am very upset with eBay. They definately are anti-sellers. Now they demand I use only PayPal when listing, and I’m prevented from listing because I refuse to use PP! After 5 years of happy selling, they don’t want my business? How arrogant and greedy can they get? When my current 20 items end, I’m leaving eBay. Plus they no longer send an itemized list of fees, so how do we know if we are being overcharged? keep up the boycot!

  • Anonymous

    they own paypal thats why they want you to use them only. more money for them.

  • Brenda Burrill

    I quit ebay just within the past week. I was selling an average of $6,000 per month and paying more than a third of that to ebay for the fees!! The problem I am having is finding a site that has the traffic ebay has. I have listing currently on ebid.net but have had no hits on any of my items that were my top sellers on ebay??? I even tried listing a few “featured” items to gain traffic and have had no positive results. I have thousands of dollars of inventory and am starting to panic. If anybody has any suggestions, I would so appreciate hearing them.

  • I have been an Ebay member in my 10th year, 100% positives, 511 points and I AM OUTRAGED AND DISGUSTED. Ebay has done the last straw! Anyone care to remember in the beginning-Ebay touted how they were “just a mechanism”, “they don’t get involved”???? AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED? Years ago, it was bad, bad,bad,bad when they bought paypal!And for the next years I GOT SICK AND TIRED of having paypal ads,running across my screen-shoved down my throat, but when they decided that THE ONLY CHOICE WE HAVE FOR payment is their FINANCIALLY OWNED PAYPAL!!!That is double-dipping financially!It is bad enough the fees are excessive(and if they had good customer contact, took calls, were readily accessible) and they get DOUBLE MY MONEY!Sure, the storefronts already have credit cards,and probably have paypal, BUT THE “founding members, from the ground up” like me/us, are what made ebay is today.Now forget all about the single sellers!I experienced first hand what paypal does- I sold a BerninaArtista730 for $5k and STATED UP FRONT in my description that I WILL NOT TAKE PAYPAL EVER EVER EVER.But,the highest bidder,talked me into doing paypal (I REFUSE NOR WILL I EVER HAVE A PAYPAL ACCT), SO i ASKED MY HUSBAND IF HE would take the payment through his paypal acct.Well it all went downhill.The buyer paid immediately, BUT IT DIDN’T SHOW UP in the acct., days, into a week go by-email after email trying to find out what happened w/paypal-finally searched FOREVER+got a phone# only to find out it was credited to someone else’s acct-never did find out who-so paypal makes it seems as though WE HAD COMMITTED something, blocked the account immediately(after taking out their fees on the same day of sale),my husband couldn’t do his own ebay business, and we lost other bidders,the money came out of the buyer’s acct, but where did it go?then we were told"we have to investigate",never heard what happened,well into two weeks after the buyer paid, had to have buyer cancel transaction, had to wait 7 business days for her acct to be credited,- 3 weeks and counting, had to re-pay the money into my husband’s account-another 10 days because “we are investigating”, so after 5 weeks, we finally get the money! And ebay’s slogan is “paypal is safer”!Meanwhile,I hope everyone knows,PAYPAL is making money off the money by not crediting it right away-they are USING IT!, the longer they can hold it (and there is no reason given for it usually),Then WE ARE TO TRUST PAYPAL and be forced to use them-I knew what sleaze bags they were yrs ago when I used the keywords “paypal” “paypal sucks” “paypal legal” in google +low and behind the TRUTH SHALL BE KNOWN!And would you believe, because I had my husband accept payment for this sale, EBAY WITHOUT MY APPROVAL, NOR DID A ASK FOR IT, lists my husband’s name (I use my maiden name) as a paypal account to accept payment when I list an item! HOW DARE THEY! Then, I listed some items that were only at $2. opening-and
    I noticed the donation option.I thought it would be a good idea to contribute 10% to Habitat for Humanity (after all I had worked there for years) out of my profit.Well, little did i see that Ebay demands a $5. minimum donation! So, I sell at $2.00, pay $1.58 for shipping, final value,insertion fees of .85 and I am in the minus!I emailed and emailed, pleaded with them AND MISSION Fish that a retired woman (who only makes $354 a month) can’t afford to just dish out $5. when I am in the negative.I have been sent a response that basically said “to make the donation more meaningful” we require that amount.,and they wouldn’t correct it, or realize a mistake had been made.So I got a message that Mission Fish is deducting $5 from my account(which is debit card directly from my bank) on Nov.1st.- well I fixed their red wagon, and transferred all of my money OUT, leaving .01! Then I had my husband pay the .50 I owe to Ebay from his own bank(not paypal) to cover the remainder of what I owed), and I contacted my bank, cancelled my bank card- and will now have a new one(the basic account# didn’t change, but they only have the card number, just like its a credit card).I get a message that Mission Fish will be taking the money from my account on November 10th—BUT ALAS, it is gone!
    I believe in Habitat for Humanity and
    worked for nothing, but I’ll be damned if I am FORCED TO GIVE, what Ebay DEMANDS! It truly takes away from people wanting to make contributions, because WE ALL KNOW, it is NOT out of Ebay’s ever loving heart that they are including a donation on their site-ITS ALL A TAX WRITE OFF!!!!! I WILL JOIN ANY BOYCOTT OF EBAY, AND DO WHATEVER IT TAKES to let them lose lose. And, I will be the first to join any class action suits- legal pursuits against them! Count ME IN Deborah

  • Anonymous

    Well today was my day for leaving EBay. I had enough. Over 800 listings and all of them had my taking moneyorders and personal checks written in the ad. Ebay chat people could not help me on how to manage the changing over to PayPal only. So I got extremely angry and decided to go elsewhere. I am taking all my goods and start a brand new store on EBid. It is so true that EBay does not help with any problems the sellers have. And on top of it I found out that my standing with them was “poor” on compliance with their policies. That after giving them thousands and thousands of dollars in fees and a 100% feedback of 2207! Thank you for letting me take my frustrations with EBay out in this writing.

  • Anonymous

    I too was suspended from ebay1735 ratings with a 100% positive yet a neg. came in because I didn’t email someone back-which I did and now I am suspended for 30 days. No supervisor to talk to, no appeals process, no understandable explaination-yet they yank someones livlihood so callously. They had no problem closing all the listings-even the ones with bids-I would be mad about that if I had been one of the bidders. This selling period was to be for my kids Christmas-a little excessive “punishment” to say the least. I will be reviewed in 30 days-how exactly will things change if not allowed to list-doesn’t even make sense. So check -out smrstuff on ebid.net
    So I too have closed my affiliation with ebay-moved inventory to ebid.net and my books from half.com are now listed with Amazon.
    It really irritates me when a big business treats those that have been with them a long time, and were instrumental in growing that business, so offensively.

  • Hi there,
    I just found out about this site… I Love it.
    I started a website about 4 years ago and sold on eBay. About 1 year ago we went 100% on our own because of all the issues your members have been talking about.

    This is not a sales pitch. I am trying to find ex ebay sellers to help our site grow. We have about 1 million members and are looking for great sellers who are interested in posting and who want to be vocal about how to price services so that it works well for sellers. I would be interested in finding sellers who want to list items and feedback from sellers on how to price. The site is www.auctionwire.com
    or bid.auctionwire.com

    If you are interested in selling you can register and make sure you click the the Sellers tab in the registration process. We are looking at interesting thinks like porting eBay feedback so sellers who leave eBay will have advanced standing on our site…we just need to come together as one.
    I invite your comments

  • I have a option to offer to sellers. I am fedup with ebay like the rest of you, and went out and bought a new auction script with all the whistles & bells and special features that sellers like. I am setting it up as a CO-OP run by the sellers where they make the rules & set the fees. I plan to profit share with the sellers and let them have a piece of the ebay pie. Maybe thru selling stocks or shares to investors in the auction, or by splitting the selling fee profits equally by what sellers downlines produce. That way sellers that go out and recruit and train others will be rewarded for their knowledge and for promoting the site. Maybe a combination of both, and I’m open to new ideas. The idea is to unite sellers and get them to join forces to support one site. The sellers have the power to control the market and put ebay out of business, if they organize and work together. If you want another option besides ebay, check out www.247SwapMeet.com I will be opening for business soon but you can visit the site, we are in the process of setting up, adding mods, fixing bugs and optimizing for search engine ranking. Anyone interested in being an owner in their own auction business?

  • Hello everybody
    I want to thank everyone for their input about options other than Ebay. I have signed up for these sites:
    blujay.com, bonanzle.com, etsy.com, ebid.com, webstore.com and atomicmall.com. I am keeping tabs on all of them to see the number of views, and of course the sales. Each has their own positive specialty. Atomic mall has it set up that there is always a $5. charge per month on the card and any transactions are subtracted against it. Also, the view count can be misleading. Every time I access my item page, it counts as a hit! The seller’s view shouldn’t count. The way around it is to use the view storefront tab and it lists all of the items I am selling with the # of views per item.It took me a while to figure that one out! Etsy is the hand crafts ONLY site- It charges .20 per listing fee and a final value. There’s alot of competition though. I have gotten some great ideas.
    At bonanzle, listing is completely free. The final fees are VERY REASONABLE. Anything selling less than $10, is only 50 cents, less than $50, is $1, less than $100 is $3, and $1k+ is only $10. And, one of their features is you can have a bonanzle blow out where you pick a LIVE ON LINE SUPER SALE. The views are slow for clothing even though I have 100% Pure cashmere jackets from Talbots and I.Magnin they are not being viewed much.I am hoping after Xmas things will pick up. Ebid, so far has not produced any sales. Webstore is promising. At this point, I have at least 5 websites to sell items for very reasonable rates. AND I CAN choose my method of payments that are acceptable to me.
    My latest creative undertaking is making “artistic” designer jewelry- Would you believe I made 71 pairs of
    earrings- most of which are genuine gemstones; jade, black onyx, pearl, garnet, amethyst, lapis azuli, swarovski???And I do mostly leverbacks! I have done necklaces as well. my login name in most of the stores is “iamthatiam” and Aerie designs in case any one
    wants any creative listing ideas. I have “named” my jewelry; ie. “Monet”, “Aphrodite”, etc. Hey, its kind of fun.

  • ok ive came up with an idea if you sell electronics contact me for some info at larry@cheapeectronicsdirect.com

  • Hello everybody who hate ebay. I got the chance to say something which I never thought I have to share with other people. I had work with ebay and paid for the big fee on time never late. I am just small seller but I keep paid for the fee which I don’t think I make any money but just for fun. I did some auction and buy now items. Sometimes, the buyer cheating buy got the item I sent but they report not get it which I have the recieve from the post office show ebay but still have to refund that money to buyer by I had to lose all my item & cost for shipping and the fee ebay took it never refund back to me…what’s that mean??? ebay, always have it ( money )…no matther what!!!!
    When I have any question, they answer very late it’s seem nicely but the answer didn’t help any better…nothing!